This will help get the seed down in contact with the soil, which is very important. This contradicts what the professor says in his book Fundamentals of Turfgrass Management. Obviously, I'm unable to measure the lengths of the underground roots but I'm guessing they're doing well. These patches look great initially but are eventually thinned out by turf disease. Not only do fungi seek out this necessary plant nutrient, but they have the ability to free it from its chemical and physical bonds. After applying the overseed, you can put down some quick-release fertilizer to jump start the germination process of the seeds. Overseeding with an improved grass seed mixture can get new turf growing in bare areas as well as “sprucing up” areas where the turf is thin and unhealthy looking. 2. Fertilizer do not expire, right? Unlike Nitrogen, it seems you CANNOT feed phosphorous directly to the plants. That is, unless you really do want to compact the soil. If you live in the North and are unable to overseed in the fall, your next best time is the spring. The phosphorous helps out the roots. While this comes with risks, it can also be beneficial and save you time on seeding in spring. So it is 15x30 = 450sqft, and then raise up 5 inches. By applying grass seed over an existing lawn, you can help fill in bare spots and reinvigorate your lawn. Or before seeding? I sprayed round up on some remaining grass/weeds on Sept 9 and will try to level it with some top soil next weekend (it is uneven level now). I would cover the seed with something. You can typically find rocks at a local hardscape store or quarry. When do you use a stomper? Each and every seed in the Scott's Sun and Shade Mix is encased in a mulch coating which is suppose to keep the seed moister longer with less water. If your lawn consists of Kentucky bluegrass, fine fescue, or perennial ryegrass, choose a product specially designed for overseeding thin lawns, like Scotts® Turf Builder® Thick’R Lawn™ Sun & Shade, which combines grass seed, fertilizer, and a soil improver into an easy-to-use product you apply with a spreader. From what I can see, you just have a parking pad with a gravel driveway? Hmm, both the Scotts bag of seed (Sun and Shade mix) and the Rebels bag of seed I have (tall fescue blend) have you mix in the starter fertilizer with the seed and soil. Q3) Do i still need to put any top foil after I put the Seed? By applying grass seed over an existing lawn, you can help fill in bare spots and reinvigorate your lawn. As spring approaches, try to cut your ryegrass down to about a half-inch. Water daily for at least two weeks, always keeping the surface moist. Each wants something the other furnishes. I was in the yard all dayntoday and put new soil in, rake up the soil...etc...i havent spread the seed yet. Don't put so much down that you kill your existing grass; less than a quarter of an inch is plenty. Forgot to add:Takkie, Scotts "EZ Seed" and Pennington "1 Step" are extremely expensive products because, percentage-wise, you get much more mulch in the bottle than seed. If you have a dog, is he/she relieving itself there and thus killing the grass? On many turfgrass sites where clippings are not removed there may be no need for phosphorus fertilizer as long as the residual supply from previous fertilizations is adequate.". If your soil is especially compacted, you may wish to aerate the lawn before you overseed. See my article on Grass Types. You don't need to work the fertilizer into the soil. Who knows if it really does anything? I don't know if you should add fertilizer. What seed/fertilizer should i get then pls? In the future, i am going to plant small busges surrounding the lot, to prevent people from walking in. After seeding? If you don't know what type of grass you have, consult our Identify Your Grass article. Use a bag to catch the clippings even though you may not normally use one. Newly developing seedlings need a lot of P for initial development, but they lack the well-developed root system to reach out and obtain the P they need. Starter fertilizer needs to have less nitrogen than regular fertilizers or you risk burning young, tender roots. I mainly want the lighter green color of grass. 50 percent of the weight of the bag is mulch, which isn't as bad as "EZ Seed" or "1 Step" which is almost all mulch and little seed by weight. Use a spreader and spread seeds around the lawn according to the instruction given on the label. How long after putting a pre-emergent down can I over seed my lawn this is going to depend on the particular product you're using. In my short year learning about grass, I've tried both methods (raking the seeds into the bare ground to cover them with soil, and not raking: In other words after spreading the seeds onto *bare* ground, I've covered the seeds by hand-tossing a little topsoil on top of them. Like I said earlier, there are a few different types of grass seed available so consider which type will suit your needs and your lawn the best. I wouldn't worry until October. It isn't cost effective, as the amount of seed is so low, you will have to use a ton of it to achieve the proper overseeding rate. $ Selecting the right type of grass is key, and planting a variety of species helps your lawn become established as the seeds’ strengths and weaknesses offset each other. I went to home depot today, to return the EZ Seed that I bought previously. As long as the soil stays above the mid 50's, you should be OK. Find everything you need to know about grass and grass seed at Scotts. You can find the size of your lawn here, then use the recommendations on the grass seed bag for the size of your lawn. I am in NYC, little neck area, with a front lawn size of about 13 x 100, and a backyard size of about 30 x 15. Lowenfels and Lewis write in Teaming with Microbes, The Organic Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web: "[The mineral Phosphorous] is almost always chemically locked up in soils; even when it is applied as fertilizer, phosphorous becomes unavailable to plants within seconds. There is no risk of erosion from sudden downpours, and it’s faster, neater, and less expensive than starting from scratch. I took essential oils (peppermint, clove, and balsam) into every open wall cavity I could. I'll second what kidhorn said. (This is different from reseeding, which is when you start over and plant a completely new lawn.). If you're using grass seed to overseed your lawn instead of an overseeding product like Scotts® Turf Builder® Thick’R Lawn™ Sun & Shade, it's a good idea to rake in a thin layer of enriched soil over your lawn to help the seed settle in. Or at least come thru between the trees and have the car face in the opposite direction of what it is now. World rights reserved. [This differs from what my 2 bags of seed say, but I'll follow the professor's advice if I ever decide to use starter fertilizer. You can isolate the overseeded areas from foot traffic for a couple of weeks while continuing to use the unaffected areas. The seeds are tall fescue planted in the vicinity of some trees--so a partially shaded area. I guess their logic for charging extra is the so-called "convenience" of the products--all in one (Lol). Yep, Scott's Sun and Shade Mix contains perennial grasses: Kentucky bluegrass, fine fescue, and perennial ryegrass. Use a seed spreader to make the job faster and ensure that the seed is spread evenly. It seems to really help with germination. The simple answer to the question can you use a pre-emergent & overseed at the same time is no. 1) for front lawn which is a overseed, what type of Scott's fertilizer?2) for backyard which is a reseed, I think it is the starter fertilizer, right?3) I bought a scotts sead spreader from home depot for 35 bucks, which is a spreader cart, and I plan to use it for spreading the seeds. (Not sure if there have been any studies comparing these factors.). You've cut the lawn short, raked it, and removed any debris. Ideally, you would get a soil test to see what your soil lacks, but Nitrogen in transigent so the soil always needs a periodic injection and all lawn fertilizers contain a lot of N. I use a steel rake to spread the soil. Now comes the easy part. Your soil should have a damp consistency before you spread any seeds. You don't want more than a quarter inch of soil over the seeds. I've never used starter fertilizer. This is apparently due to a dynamic equilibrium between soluble and insoluble forms of phosporus; as the available pool is reduced by plant uptake, some ot the insoluble phosphorus becomes soluble at a sufficient rate to sustain turfgrass growth requirements. Then, apply the lawn fertilizer that works best for your type of grass. How to Overseed Lawns Without Aerating. Just fill up your spreader, adjust the setting according to the label directions, and apply. You could pick out a 5 foot by 5 foot area, water it, aerate it, put a good layer of compost over it, and then water it every three days for a month. I didn't have time to do it on the actual day of seeding. Overseeding a lawn lets you fill in bare spots and improve your grass by adding in better varieties. For your watering times, a schedule like 7, 11, and 3-4 is fine as long as you are sure the seeds aren't drying out. The best time to overseed is in the fall for cool-weather grasses. Back to Turgeon again below. @ran7104 -- while my kitchen was turn apart, I did two things to help with future pest control. Then i was looking for Scotts Kentucky Blue grass 7lbs bag -- it is also out of stock. That's the minimum needed and I'm guessing the vast majority of soils have that available. Think again. If you apply an herbicide, you’ll have to wait 6–8 weeks to overseed. How do you do it? I only want perennial type of seeds. Pre-Seeding Fertiliser. Therefore, since the plants probably cannot uptake phosphorous directly, the plants need fungi to deliver phosphorous to them, and fungi work at their own pace, whether the phosphorous comes from an organic source or synthetic source, or so it would seem to me. I have seen Sears selling these top soils for 1.50 a bag but i do not know the quality of it. It seems to be lower priced than buying fertilizer + seed seperately. It surprised me that the companies would be so mean to each other on national TV. I had some topsoil left over from last year's zoysia sodding that I did. You can sow your seed by hand or with a spreader. For various reasons, old turf sometimes deteriorates dramatically or dies out completely. Most people do three times a day for 5-10 minutes each time. If you put down grass seed in November or December, the seed will just lay dormant until the soil starts to warm in spring. Any place that sells slate or gravel probably has rocks. The best time to sow seeds for lawn patch repair depends on the type of grass you have. The reason why is, i know that the soil should be loosen when i spread thenseeds, but as i am walking back and forth to pick uo debris, roots..etc.. I'll second Tiemco's suggestion about not needing to rake in the starter fertilizer by quoting our good Iowa State professor in Fundamentals of Turfgrass Management: "As a final step before establishment, a starter fertilizer high in phosphorous (P) and low in nitrogen (N) should be applied to the SURFACE of the soil....The most important element at the time of establishment is P. The reason for this is that P is relatively immobile in the soil. It's not light green however, more of a medium to medium dark green. Overseeding is a fast, inexpensive way to help bring your lawn back to its lush, green self without tearing everything out and starting over. I put everything in a wheelbarrel and break up the dirt clumps and mix everything before spreading. e) water alot after EZ Seed and for next 2 weeks. Looks like it needs a good de-thatching and new seed or sod. Stay away from hay; it often has lots of weed seeds in it. I plan on spreading fertilizer, so, does it make sense to MIX fertilizer and seed all together when i spread it? Use a core aerator when the soil is moist and soft, not dry, and not muddy. He says "The starter fertilizer is placed on the surface and is NOT worked into the topsoil" [emphasis added]. Soil microorganisms like fungi are a necessary middle step. You want moist ground, not puddling. But I've never needed to use starter fertilizer. Takkie, it sounds counter-intuitive, but raking grass seed that has been spread onto *bare* ground will cover the seeds under a thin layer of topsoil. Maybe I'll do that later. (The words "1 Step" were clearly visible on the bottle in this Scotts TV commercial). In many instances the amount of available phosphate in the soil is surprisingly low compared with the amount removed by actively growing turfgrasses. Worn-out lawns invite weeds. Both products are loaded with mulch and, if I remember right, a little fertilizer (maybe it was 1 percent nitrogen). New grass has tiny roots, the only nutrients from your starter fertilizer it will use will be up near the very top of the soil. Choose the right seeding product. Also, you will increase the duration of the watering a bit as you cut back on the number of waterings per day. 2. Once you see seed popping up, don't stop watering. The N level in a starter fertilizer is relatively low because N can easily burn new seedlings if applied in excessive amounts. You can overseed at almost any time of the year for a fraction of the cost of a complete reseeding. Like Yankees vs. Red Socks, cat lovers vs. dog lovers, there are those who overseed their grass and those who don’t. The label on the bottle will show the percentage of seed contained in the bottle. If so, right before you overseed, scalp the lawn down as low as your mower will go. I would cover the seed with something. Is it OK to Plant Grass Seeds in Wet Grounds?. That would equal about 250 bags (if they are .75 cubic foot bags), but you generally buy that much topsoil from someone who will deliver it by dump truck. Scotts® Turf Builder® LawnSoilTM works well for this purpose. Do you have any suggestion on what top soil i should use for a) leveling backyard, and b) dropping on top of seeds in both front lawn and backyard? No grass (Or any plant) can take a lot of foot traffic. The same is true for the 3.75 pound bottle of "EZ Seed." What is the minimum weather temp I need to reseed? Fertilize to get the grass growing. Generally reduced growth, dark to reddish leaf coloration, and narrow leaf blades indicate a deficiency in available phosphate in the soil. Many St. Augustine lawns are looking pretty bad right now. ", [That's roughly 0.75 pounds per 1,000 square feet--we'll round and say 1 pound per 1,000 square feet. The best method for grass spot repair is to overseed with new grass seed in the affected area. Scott's EZ seed is not what you want to use to overseed your yard. If your soil's really bad, compost might help your young grass more than starter fertilizer but I can't say for sure. ft. For complete renovation, 8 to 12 lbs per 1000 sq. Well, Scotts can help you get back to the thick, lush, green lawn you've always wanted and all you need to do is overseed. If ez seed is a lousy product, what would you recommend pls? Compost also works well as a mulch. Lack of water, too much heat, wear & tear, and other problems can make it look worn and thin. Before you seed, you can use a non-selective, post-emergent herbicide to control any weeds in the area to be seeded. Fertilize over-seeded sites with a complete fertilizer such as 16-4-8. Need landscape advice from pro or anyone for lawn fix. Use 2 to 4 lbs per 1000 sq. If your lawn looks thin and scraggly, a simple strategy of overseeding may be the path to lush, healthy new growth. Mow low. By the way, I tossed the thin layer of topsoil over the seeds about 2 days after putting the seeds down. First, make sure you choose the … Maybe I'll try it one day, but it just seems like an extra thing I don't really need to buy in order to grow grass inexpensively. I was thinking that after i spread seed, i will rake it to even out once.then spread fertilizer, and rake to even out.then finally, put top soil, and and just leave it at that. If you put down too much grass seed, you will encourage competition that will cause your grass seedlings to struggle after germination because there will be excessive competition for sunlight, soil nutrients, and water. One things for sure, as kidhorn said, covering your seed seems to provide better results (greater number of seeds germinating) than *overseeding* them (or not covering them). Takkie, regarding your other question about how much starter fertilizer to apply, world-renowned Iowa State professor Nick Christians (the discoverer of Corn Gluten Meal as a preemergent) ends by saying: "A good choice for this application to relatively fertile soils is a 12-25-10 or some similar analysis high in P2O5 [P205 is the phosphorous component--the middle number in 12-25-10 is phosphorous] and low in N [the first number]. Wait until the grass is established before applying an herbicide. "Ground up paper" are the actual words used in the Scotts commercial to refer to the Pennington "1 Seed" product. © 2002-2020 The Scotts Company LLC. You'll want to reference the product label to make sure that you're well outside that pre-emergent barrier window and make sure that you're putting it down at a time that the grass seed actually has a chance to succeed. Combining aeration and overseeding is the best way to enhance your lawn’s health and appearance. Exactly how long to wait varies by grass variety and growing conditions. You will need roughly 187 cubic feet of soil, which comes out to about 7 cubic yards. In fact I used top soil to cover tall fescue seeds last week, and the seeds germinated in only 3 days, which kind of surprised me because when I seeded a different area a few months ago during spring, the same Rebels tall fescue seeds (from the same bag) took 7 days to germinate. Feed and water. Restore your turf’s good looks by reseeding unsightly patches, Focus on these beginner-friendly vegetables, herbs, beans and salad greens to start a home farm with little fuss, Plant tomato seedlings in spring for one of the best tastes of summer, fresh from your backyard, Carex can replace turfgrass in any spot, is low maintenance and adjusts easily. Most average between 1.5 to 2 inches but there are some that are even 3 inches in height now, just 7 days after seeding the tall fescue, and that is without the use of any starter fertilizer. I'm not kidding. 3. A few months ago I saw on CNBC a tv commercial for Scotts "EZ Seed" that showed a homeowner using Pennington "1 Step" on his lawn. Grass Seed. If it looks better, you will know what to do. You can hand toss it. You may want to consider putting down pavers at the high traffic corner instead of grass. Scotts, for example, says "Lightly rake to move the seed and [starter] fertilizer into the soil." I want to keep the cost down, and dont want to buy scotts turfbuilder lawn top soil becuase it runs about 7 dollars a bag. Our Product pages have sowing rates for you to work out how much seed you need. Would that be possible? so the fertilizer just sit on it, without raking? Shop for Seed. I agree with BostonRoots on the Scotts EZ Seed. 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