In this form, Goku was able to fight on par with Jiren. The Father-Son Kamehameha is … Gohan had his power unlock twice. With Goku sacrificing himself to help defeat Raditz, Piccolo is forced to train Gohan so he can become stronger. Following Goku's death, he was trained by Piccolo in anticipation of the upcoming Saiyan invasion, and grew much stronger and closer to his new mentor, ultimately redeeming him and setting him down the path of heroism due to their bond. Gohan would beat SSj 3 Goku akira toriyama already said gohan is the most powerful non fused character of Buu Arc, and in that thing thats exactly canon the MANGA!!!! Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see Captain Marvel fight a Saiyan. Now if Gotenks is that much stronger at SSJ 3 than when he was only SSj1, then he's much stronger than Goku. Since he hasn't put this form to the test against Beerus, fans can only debate if Goku's Ultra Instinct would be enough to take Beerus down, although it's safe to assume that Beerus would have a tougher time defeating Ultra Instinct Goku than he did Super Saiyan God Goku. His battle against the yardrat made pretty clear that base Frieza is stronger than him It's clear you're a s***ty troll. In Dragon Ball Super, Gohan has become a complete family man, being a devoted father and husband. Which goku, is it after kid buu fight, or GT, or newly formed ssj3 goku. It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. This was in order to test Gohan’s strength comparative to Goku. RELATED: Eight Things They Changed From DBZ To Dragon Ball Super (And Two They Kept The Same) His strength grows exponentially by the end of the training as he is able to shatter large … Was it because kid buu was PURE evil, when Super Buu was the type to always want to turn people into chocolate and wanting a challenge. 5 Ghost Rider Ultimate Gohan is way stronger than super saiyan 3 Goku (don't bring Hirudegarn, Goku is my favorite character but this is all dragon punch PIS). A power-up focused on martial arts skills like physical attacks and dodging. I think Ultimate Gohan is because He had no problem against Super Buu befor he absorbed Gotenks SSJ3. via: dragonball.wikia.com. Then there's Vegeta that can only access ss2. DrunkenPilot72 11 years ago #5. iirc, Toriyama himself stated that Gohan was the strongest non-fused character in the series. he needs the motivation to become stronger eg earth under threat so when he becomes strongest he is … !, Goku said even tho they took out gohan, goten, trunks, and piccolo (who had kami and nail) out of super buu he still is FAR TO STRONG FOR THEM and Goku is therefore stronger than Gohan and with that evidence, this even implies that he could be as powerful as Vegito. Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. But both moves were still a normal Kamehameha. The only point where Gohan is clearly in another league is for one major fight about 200 episodes in, after which time 7 years pass, with Goku training almost constantly and Gohan not training at all, so Goku takes the lead again. read the god of highschool. Just to make my opinion absolutely clear, Gohan is stronger then Goku at the end of the buu saga.Jpark0015 16:07, August 30, 2011 (UTC) Goku is Stronger than Ultimate Gohan when goku was powering up every one felt it even in the kai's world but when Gohan was powering up it was felt only in the kai's world. I'd say Full power mystic Gohan might be stronger than SSJG Goku and can probably hold his own against SSJB like android 17. The form is known as Binary and during this state, her powers can be compared to that of Ultra Instinct Goku, thus making her way stronger than Ultimate Gohan. SSB Goku remains stronger than Gohan Gohan surpass and toys with SSB Goku but NOT UI Goku Gohan toys with SSB Goku, and surpasses UI Goku but NOT MUI Goku Gohan defeats MUI Goku Gohan toys with MUI Goku, thinks there is nothing special about it Goku and Gohan become exact equals. Regardless, Gohan is far stronger than SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Goku was holding back against Broly.Rage broly never lost to ssg vegeta. And Gohan was even stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. Oko500 14:23, September 14, 2012 (UTC) The title clearly says ssj2 vegeta vs ssj2 gohanK1lp1k0nna 14:42, September 14, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna Unless Cell knows something Gohan doesn't about Kamehamehas, considering that Gohan and Cell used the exact same move against each other, Gohan is stronger than Cell by the simple fact that Gohan's Kamehameha is stronger than Cell's. Gohan does not have a love for fighting like his father. Comment your opinion on who is stronger or better. Yet Mystic Gohan overpowered SS2 Goku when they fought. In that episode, we saw the true return form for Ultimate Gohan as he challenged his father to a one-on-one fight. Base Freeza is stronger than base Gohan. He acted as a substitute for his father and put Gohan under intensive survival training. Mystic Gohan is stronger than base Freeza. There is also a brief period in the buu saga where Gohan becomes stronger but other than that goku is stronger. Can Gohan like in Cell Saga, catch up with DBS Goku or even surpass … The misconception fight between Gohan vs Goku in the Dragon Ball had the fan base hyped after episode 90 of Dragon Ball super. Post-Dragon Ball Z- Goku achieves the form of super saiyan god, making him way stronger than Gohan, so Goku wins this time. He is way stronger than Goku/Vegeta, not about SSJ2 Gohan. If you enjoyed, then like and Subscribe! Gohan after training with piccolo was already much stronger than Kid Goku in dragonball since he fought one on one with Vegeta when Goku before training with King Kai could not fight Raditz, But the Goten would beat all of them since he was able to transform into a super saiyan at age 7 so that round would go to Goten. Gohan is stronger if goku is in his normal form but if they are both in super saiyan 2 form or if Goku is in super saiyan form then goku is stronger. As far as individaul characters, Gohan is the strongest at the end. Although, it's likely Android 17 might be stronger considering Gohan had to ask Goku to use SSJB while Goku went SSJB on his own against 17. And why was kid buu the last buu in the series whe super buu was stronger. Evolve 20 ( talk ) 18:35, July 14, 2013 (UTC) This crap about goku being capable of going super saiyan 2 and defeating cell but just passing the torch to gohan for him to defeat cell just because goku felt like retiring is defniitely wrong. SSJ3 Gotenks (at least 3x stronger than Goku) defuse immediately after taking 1 hit from Hirudegarn, but not for Goku. dragonball0900 3 months ago #18. Goku still able to take a several beating while provoking Hirudegarn = Tough User Info: dragonball0900. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. he defeated cell when he was a child and goku couldn't as an adult. Vote. Goten turned Super Saiyan on a … When the people of a society agree that sacrificing a child is acceptable collateral damage then IMO it has become a society that's not worth saving. Who was stronger, not the better fighter, but stronger in raw power. ^He was talking about Ultimate Gohan. Goku's help was negligible, all he did was tell Gohan to stop holding back. gohan because goku ssj3 was same in powerlevel of fat buu and super buu is twice stronger than fat buu and gohan was beating super buu like anything so gohan mystic is stronger than goku ssj3. To get things in perspective, we need to start at the beginning, and progress chronologically and stick to a single source of information. after losing to cell Goku even admits that Gohan is stronger than he is. View Results . Like Gohan, Captain Marvel can also transform when she has absorbed enough energy. Also the fact that Gohan managed to survive an attack from SSJB Kaioken which is strong enough to easily kill Gohan and … It was a sort of return to the roots of the franchise. 10 Stronger: Ultra Instinct Goku. User Info: DrunkenPilot72. Blue goku is much stronger than gohan. The first time was with the Elder Namekian, also known as Guru on Planet Namek, and the second time was with the Elder Supreme Kai back in Dragon Ball Z. Gohan is way stronger. Goku is always stronger than Gohan except during the cell games when Gohan becomes the first to become super Saiyan 2. gohan because goku ssj3 was same in powerlevel of fat buu and super buu is twice stronger than fat buu and gohan was beating super buu like anything so gohan mystic is stronger than goku ssj3. Gohan with aid lost to saganbo while goku is far stronger than saganbo. In any … SSJ3 Goku vs Hirudegarn : Hirudegarn is obviously stronger than Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (both of them are at least 3x Goku). Following the death of Goku, Chi Chi was really adamant about training Goten while she left Gohan to focus on his studies. Frieza wouldn't stand a chance against Goku like this. In this case, I’ll refer to the anime released in the United States. So, what happened was the Elder Kai pretty much unlock all of Gohan’s dormant sleeping potential. REAL Logic During the Buu arc, Gotenks was definitively stronger, as Goku established he was too scared to fight the base Evil Buu without fusing, even with Vegeta's help, and this same form of Buu was the one that Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks was shown to be essentially even with. Since we never saw Vegito really try all that much except for one instance when he stopped Buu from breaking the dimensional barrier, we have no gauge to use except the evidence offered by the Kais. 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